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Home My WebLink About24-568 Baker PHONE: 717-783-1610 STATE ETHICS COMMISSION FACSIMILE: 717-787-0806 FINANCE BUILDING WEBSITE: www.ethics.pa.gov TOLL FREE: 1-800-932-0936 613 NORTH STREET, ROOM 309 HARRISBURG, PA 17120-0400 ADVICE OF COUNSEL October 24, 2024 To the Requester: MeeCee Baker, PhD President/Chief Executive Officer Versant Strategies, LLC 24-568 Dear Dr. Baker: This responds to your submissions received September 16, 2024, October 2, 2024, and October 4, 2024, by which you requested an advisory from the Pennsylvania State Ethics Commission (“Commission”), seeking guidance as to the general issue presented below: Issue: Whether the Public Official and Employee Ethics Act (“Ethics Act”), 65 Pa.C.S. § 1101 et seq., would impose restrictions upon an individual with regard to performing work for his new employer, Versant Strategies, LLC, following termination of his employment as a Special Assistant to the Secretary of Agriculture for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Brief Answer: YES. During the first year following termination of the individual’s Commonwealth employment, Section 1103(g) of the Ethics Act would apply and restrict the individual from engaging in any activity that would involve “representation” of a “person” — including but not limited to his new employer, Versant Strategies, LLC — before his “former governmental body,” which consists of the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture. Facts: You request an advisory from the Commission based upon submitted facts that may be fairly summarized as follows. Baker, 24-568 October 24, 2024 Page 2 You are the President/Chief Executive Officer of Versant Strategies, LLC (“the Firm”). By letter dated September 30, 2024, you offered Ryan Smith (“Mr. Smith”) employment as the Firm’s Chief Marketing Officer. Mr. Smith’s employment with the Firm began on October 7, 2024. Mr. Smith’s primary job responsibilities will involve business development and finding new clients. Mr. Smith will also be involved in tracking legislative bills, writing a weekly newsletter, and assisting staff with matters pertaining to legislative initiatives. At or around the time that you offered Mr. Smith employment with the Firm, he was employed as a Special Assistant to the Secretary of Agriculture for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. The Secretary of Agriculture is the head of the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture (“the Department of Agriculture”). See, 71 P.S. § 66. You have submitted a copy of a position description for the position of Special Assistant to the Secretary of Agriculture, which document is incorporated herein by reference. As Mr. Smith’s employer, you seek guidance as to whether the Ethics Act would impose prohibitions or restrictions upon Mr. Smith with regard to performing work for the Firm, including engaging in governmental relations, during the first year following termination of his Commonwealth employment. Discussion: It is initially noted that pursuant to Sections 1107(10) and 1107(11) of the Ethics Act, 65 Pa.C.S. §§ 1107(10), (11), advisories are issued to the requester based upon the facts that the requester has submitted. In issuing the advisory based upon the facts that the requester has submitted, the Commission does not engage in an independent investigation of the facts, nor does it speculate as to facts that have not been submitted. It is the burden of the requester to truthfully disclose all of the material facts relevant to the inquiry. 65 Pa.C.S. §§ 1107(10), (11). An advisory only affords a defense to the extent the requester has truthfully disclosed all of the material facts. The post-employment restrictions of Section 1103(g) of the Ethics Act apply to former public officials/public employees. While Section 1103(g) does not prohibit a former public official/public employee from accepting a position of employment, it does restrict the former public official/public employee with regard to “representing” a “person” before “the governmental body with which he has been associated”: § 1103. Restricted activities (g) Former official or employee.--No former public official or public employee shall represent a person, with promised or actual compensation, on any matter before the governmental body with which he has been associated for one year after he leaves that body. 65 Pa.C.S. § 1103(g) (Emphasis added). The terms “represent,” “person,” and “governmental body with which a public official or public employee is or has been associated” are specifically defined in the Ethics Act as follows: Baker, 24-568 October 24, 2024 Page 3 § 1102. Definitions “Represent.” To act on behalf of any other person in any activity which includes, but is not limited to, the following: personal appearances, negotiations, lobbying and submitting bid or contract proposals which are signed by or contain the name of a former public official or public employee. “Person.” A business, governmental body, individual, corporation, union, association, firm, partnership, committee, club or other organization or group of persons. “Governmental body with which a public official or public employee is or has been associated.” The governmental body within State government or a political subdivision by which the public official or employee is or has been employed or to which the public official or employee is or has been appointed or elected and subdivisions and offices within that governmental body. 65 Pa.C.S. § 1102. The term “person” is very broadly defined. It includes, inter alia, corporations and other businesses. It also includes the former public official/public employee himself, Confidential Opinion, 93-005, as well as a new governmental employer. Ledebur, Opinion 95-007. The term "represent" is also broadly defined to prohibit acting on behalf of any person in any activity. Examples of prohibited representation include: (1) personal appearances before the former governmental body or bodies; (2) attempts to influence; 3) submission of bid or contract proposals which are signed by or contain the name of the former public official/public employee; (4) participating in any matters before the former governmental body as to acting on behalf of a person; (5) lobbying; and (6) acting to make known to the former governmental body the representation of, or work for, a new employer. Popovich, Opinion 89 -005, Edley, Opinion 17- 002; Confidential Opinion, 17-007; Valentine, Opinion 20-003. Listing one’s name as the person who will provide technical assistance on a proposal, document, or bid, if submitted to or reviewed by the former governmental body, constitutes an attempt to influence the former governmental body. Section 1103(g) also generally prohibits the inclusion of the name of a former public official/public employee on invoices submitted by his new employer to the former governmental body, even if the invoices pertain to a contract that existed prior to termination of service with such governmental body. Shay, Opinion 91-012. However, if such a pre-existing contract does not involve the unit where a former public employee worked, the name of the former public employee may appear on routine invoices if required by the regulations of the agency to which the billing is being submitted. Abrams/Webster, Opinion 95-011. Baker, 24-568 October 24, 2024 Page 4 A former public official/public employee may assist in the preparation of any documents presented to his former governmental body. However, the former public official/public employee may not be identified on documents submitted to the former governmental body. The former public official/public employee may also counsel any person regarding that person’s appearance before his former governmental body. Once again, however, the activity in this respect should not be revealed to the former governmental body. The Ethics Act would not prohibit or preclude making general informational inquiries to the former governmental body to secure information which is available to the general public, but this must not be done in an effort to indirectly influence the former governmental body or to otherwise make known to that body the representation of, or work for, the new employer. Section 1103(g) only restricts the former public official/public employee with regard to representation before his former governmental body. The former public official/public employee is not restricted as to representation before other agencies or entities. However, the “governmental body with which a public official/public employee is or has been associated” is not limited to the particular subdivision of the agency or other governmental body where the public official/public employee had influence or control but extends to the entire body. See, Legislative Journal of House, 1989 Session, No. 15 at 290, 291; Sirolli, Opinion 90-006; Sharp, Opinion 90-009-R. Conclusion: During Mr. Smith’s employment as a Special Assistant to the Secretary of Agriculture, Mr. Smith was considered a “public employee” subject to the Ethics Act and the Regulations of the State Ethics Commission. See, 65 Pa.C.S. § 1102; 51 Pa. Code § 11.1. This conclusion is based upon the position description, which when reviewed on an objective basis, indicates clearly that the power existed to take or recommend official action of a non-ministerial nature with respect to one or more of the following: contracting; procurement; administering or monitoring grants or subsidies; planning or zoning; inspecting; licensing; regulating; auditing; or other activity(ies) where the economic impact is greater than de minimis on the interests of another person. Consequently, upon termination of Mr. Smith’s Commonwealth employment, Mr. Smith became a “former public employee” subject to Section 1103(g) of the Ethics Act. The governmental body with which Mr. Smith is deemed to have been associated upon termination of his Commonwealth employment is the Department of Agriculture in its entirety. Therefore, for the first year following termination of Mr. Smith’s Commonwealth employment, Section 1103(g) of the Ethics Act would apply and restrict Mr. Smith from engaging in any activity that would involve “representation” of a “person” — including but not limited to the Firm — before the Department of Agriculture. Section 1103(g) would not prohibit Mr. Smith from engaging in governmental relations on behalf of the Firmor its clientssubject to the condition that in so doing, he would not perform any activity that would constitute prohibited representation before the Department of Agriculture as delineated above. Lastly, the propriety of the proposed conduct has only been addressed under the Ethics Act; the applicability of any other statute, code, ordinance, regulation or other code of conduct other than the Ethics Act has not been considered. Baker, 24-568 October 24, 2024 Page 5 Pursuant to Section 1107(11) of the Ethics Act, an Advice is a complete defense in any enforcement proceeding initiated by the Commission, and evidence of good faith conduct in any other civil or criminal proceeding, provided the requester has disclosed truthfully all the material facts and committed the acts complained of in reliance on the Advice given. This letter is a public record and will be made available as such. Finally, if you disagree with this Advice or if you have any reason to challenge same, you may appeal the Advice to the full Commission. A personal appearance before the Commission will be scheduled and a formal Opinion will be issued by the Commission. Any such appeal must be in writing and must be actually receivedat the Commission within thirty (30) days of the date of this Advice pursuant to 51 Pa. Code § 13.2(h). The appeal may be received at the Commission by hand delivery, United States mail, delivery service, or by FAX transmission (717-787-0806). Failure to file such an appeal at the Commission within thirty (30) days may result in the dismissal of the appeal. Respectfully, Bridget K. Guilfoyle Chief Counsel