HomeMy WebLinkAbout81-610 DiCarloDear Mr. DiCarlo:
Mailing Address:
STATE ETHICS COMMISSION
P.O. BOX 1 179
HARRISBURG, PA 17108
TELEPHONE: (717) 783 -1610
August 28, 1981
ADVICE OF COUNSEL
David C. DiCarlo
Government & Community Relations
717 State Street
Erie, Pennsylvania 16566
RE: Section 3(e); House of Representatives, Democratic
Leadership
This responds to your letter of June 26, 1981 in which
you requested an opinion from the Ethics Commission.
Issue: You requested advice as to the limitations imposed
by the Ethics Act on your activities as a former member of
the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and as a contractor
with the (House) Democratic Leadership.
Facts: You are a former member of the Pennsylvania House of
Representatives; your term expired November 30, 1980. From
December 1, 1980 through April 15, 1981 you were under
contract with the Democratic House Leadership to evaluate
various needs of the Democratic Caucus and to plan the
development of the Capitol Complex expansion.
Discussion: The Ethics Act, 65 P.S. §401 et. seq., imposes
restrictions not only upon public officials but upon certain
activities by former public officials and public employees.
Specifically, Section 3(e) of the Act provides that:
No former official or public employee
shall represent a person, with or
without compensation, on any matter
before the governmental body with which
he has been assoicated for one year
after he leaves that body. 65 P.S. §403(e)
State Ethics Commission • 308 Finance Building • Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
81 -610
David C. DiCarlo
August 28, 1981
Page 2
Before discussing the limitations on representation
imposed by the statute it is necessary to determine the
governmental bodies with which you were associated. There
can be no doubt that you are a former public official
because of your membership in the Pennsylvania House of
Representatives and that you were, therefore, associated
with the House. You may not, accordingly, represent any
person before the House, its committees and component parts,
for one year after the expiration of your term on November
30, 1980. See Goebel, 80 -045. In addition, if you served
as Chairman of any standing committee of the House, your
"governmental body" would extend to include the body,
department, agency, etc. most closely associated with or
regulated by that standing committee. See Geesey, 80 -046.
If you were appointed, by virtue of your role as Repre-
sentative to serve on any board, commission, etc. your
"governmental body" would extend to that board, commission,
etc. See 80 -057.
You did not end your association with all governmental
bodies when you left the House. From December 1, 1980 to
April 15, 1981 you were employed by the Democratic House
Leadership. As the Ethics Commission noted in its Opinion
in Ewing, 79 -010 the term "governmental body" may refer to
entities such as the Democratic House Leadership. Absent
any indication to the contrary we assume that you performed
non - ministerial duties for the Leadership sufficient to
bring you within the Act's definition of public employee, 65
P.S. §402. You may also be considered a former public
employee even though you were under contract to the
Leadership. Public employee status is determined with
reference to the nature of the employment, not the method of
compensation. Massiah- Jackson, 80 -036. Therefore, from
December 1, 1981 to April 15, 1981 you must be considered a
public employee associated with the "governmental body" of
the Democratic House Leadership. April 15, 1981 mark
the end of your service with the Democratic Leadership, and
accordingly, you may not represent persons before the
Leadership for one year after April 15, 1981.
The scope of the term "representation" must be addressed.
Generally, the Commission has held that:
(1) personal appearance (including submitting and /or
signing bid proposals with your own name) before
the governmental body is prohibited, Morris, 80-
039;
(2) attempts to influence the governmental body are
prohibited, Goebel, 80 -045;
(3) representing the interests and views of any other
person, Goebel, 80 -045. This includes lobbying
before the governmental bodies with which you were
associated.
David C. DiCarlo
August 28, 1981
Page 3
You may not engage in any of these activities before
the House for one year after November 30, 1980 or before the
Democratic Leadership for one year after April 30, 1981.
Of course, you may freely represent the interests of
any persons before any other governmental body with which
you were not associated without reference to the provisions
of Section 3(e). Even during the one year period after
leaving public office or employment you may express your own
views on your own behalf to the House or to the Democratic
Leadership. Lloyd, 80 -040. You may also utilize the
knowledge and experience gained as a public official and
• make general inquiries, similar to those made by the public,
of both the House and the Democratic Leadership. Goebel,
80 -045.
Conclusion: You were a member of the Pennsylvania House
until November 30, 1980 and an employee of the Democratic
Leasdership until April 15, 1981. Accordingly, you may not
represent any person before the House, its committees or
component parts, for one year after November 30, 1980 or
before the Democratic House Leadership for one year subsequent
to April 15, 1981.
You may not make personal appearances or attempt to
influence either the House or the Leadership for one year
after leaving those bodies. Even during the one year period
you may represent the interests of other persons before
governmental bodies other than the Leadership or the House.
You may express your own views on your own behalf to either
body as well as make inquiries similar to those made by the
general public. You may use experience and knowledge gained
in government service except as prohibited by the Act.
Pursuant to Section 7(9)(ii), this Advice is a complete
defense in any enforcement proceeding initiated by the
Commission, and evidence of good faith conduct in any other
civil or criminal proceeding, providing the requestor has
disclosed truthfully all the material facts and committed
the acts complained of in reliance on the Advice given.
This letter is a public record and will be made available
as such.
Finally, if you disagree with this Advice or if you
have any reason to challenge same, you may request that the
full Commission review this Advice. A personal appearance
David C. DiCarlo
August 28, 1981
Page 4
before the Commission may be scheduled and a formal Opinion
from the Commission will be issued. You should make such a
request or indicate your disapproval of this Advice within
the next 30 days.
SSC /rdp
cc: Matthew J. Ryan, Speaker
House of Representatives
Si. cerely,
ndra . C' istianson
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